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medicare cuts that could be part of a fiscal cliff deal. we talk with maryland congressman chris van hollen. >> tom: i'm tom hudson. two hurricanes in two years for the northeast-- a region not used to big storms comes to terms with the cleanup and cost. >> susie: and it's green monday, one of the most popular days for online shoppers. we've got details. >> tom: that and more tonight on nbr! >> susie: president obama was in michigan today, campaigning on his plan to avert the fiscal cliff. speaking to union workers at the daimler detroit diesel engine plant, the president said he is willing to compromise "a little bit" with republicans on getting a plan for economic growth, job creation, and reducing the deficit. but he said he would not compromise on raising tax rates for high-income earners. >> and that's a principle i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all our tax breaks, and then we're asking students to pay higher student loans, or suddenly, a school doesn't have school books because the scho
. that probably won't happen until the spring or summer next year. the fiscal cliff, dealing with that, it's only the beginning. >> if you're sitting at home, whether you're in the middle class, upper class or searching for a job and slipping into lower class, why should you care about this and what can you do to affect change if washington so there's let political theater and more action? >> that's a major concern for members of congress. we're talking about the debt and deficit but the focus turned away from jobs. that's why i think the deal that is struck may not be if -- the cuts may not be effective immediately. maybe takes rates take a year to kick in because the economy is fragile. people who are out of a job don't want the economy to tank further. they want a job in 2013. congress has to be very careful to get a deal that actually doesn't put us back into recession. as you know, there's not a lot of confidence in congress so there's fear congress will mess it up. >> that's been the situation for a long time. people want to unfasten their seat belts on this. we'll keep a close eye on it. w
's governors met with president obama today about what they need to see in a fiscal cliff deal. we talk with delaware governor jack markell. >> susie: i'm susie gharib. a coalition of the nation's top c.e.o.s is feeling pessimistic about getting a fiscal cliff deal. the group's leader joins us, maya macguinneas. >> tom: and luxury fashion meets the mass market. who wins with target's pairing with neiman marcus? >> susie: that and more tonight on nbr! >> tom: there wasn't much obvious ground given today between president obama and congressional republicans in the effort to avoid the fiscal cliff in january. president obama repeated his pledge he's open to new ideas, but is holding firm on his call for higher taxes on top income earners, something missing from the g.o.p. plan. with just three weeks left, the two sides are still at odds with their opening offers. th time ticking away to reach a deal before tax cuts expire and spending cuts hit, president obama today said he's still optimistic a deal will be done and he's willing to compromise, but negotiations just aren't there yet. >> it'
get a deal on the fiscal cliff - $21.60 is the 52-week high - if a fiscal cliff deal gets done, it breaks through $20, i think it has an upside measure/move target of $21.60. so i am going to be looking to be a buyer above $20. > good to have you on the show. that is andrew keene, president of keeneonthemarket.com. > > thank you. we are running out of time for today. coming up tomorrow: the behind-the-scenes story on why the plug was pulled on circuit city. from all of us at first business, have a great monday! . >>> a homicide investigation in san francisco, the unusual way the victim was found and why police need your help. >>> we have more on the missing man police are looking for this morning. >>> it could affect your drive, it's all ahead on the ktvu channel 2 morning news. this is ktvu channel 2 morning news. >> good morning, thank you for joining us this monday morning, i am pam cook. >> let's see how long this will last, steve. >> two days. >> it's cold at night. >> it is going to
harry reid warned it will be tough to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff before christmas. we all note deadline, december 31. take a look at how we're finishing the day. the dow jones industrial average up about 80 points today. it was higher, much higher than 100 points earlier today, up two-thirds of 1%. volume on the light side this afternoon. nasdaq composite picked it up. technology up better than 1%. s&p 500 also on the upswing. markets maintaining steady gains all day long. david kudlow and bob pisani and barbara from the street. welcome to all of you. what about coming off the best levels? >> hitting search-week highs. 13,245 is where we ended the night of election and waiting for it to settle out. 13,248, so we are exactly where we were when the elections closed. i think the important thing is as long as there is some indication that they are talking the markets are holding up very well. i think the concern is after a deal happens, i think we'll have it, what will happen after, that and a lot of people are worried now that austerity is coming. that's a negative for stocks
this morning." there are 22 days left to the fiscal cliff deadline. there is no deal yet, but the two leading players are now talking face to face. >> and some republicans m congress are pushing their leaders to be a little bit more flexible. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. the white house meeting yesterday between president obama and speaker boehner occurred after the president extended that invitation to boehner quite quietly on friday. after the meeting, both were described as hopeful. even so, a followup meeting between white house staff and republican congressional staff on underlying details of a fiscal cliff deal apparently achieved little progress. the president met with boehner after huddling friday with house minority leader nancy pelosi and telephoning senate majority leader harry reid. both democrats wanted to make sure president obama will not freeze them out of fiscal cliff negotiations. far from frozen, some set of republicans appear to be warming to higher tax rates on households earning more than $250,000
to hear from somebody who says a deal on the fiscal cliff could have already been reached if only lawmakers took a page out of wall street's deal making strategy of keeping things behind closed doors. where have we heard that before? >>> plus, secretary tim geithner with us exclusively. will the white house let our economy go over the fiscal cliff if a deal on higher tax rates for the wealthy is not reached? we're checking it out. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. it's easy to follow the progress you're making toward all your financial goals. a quick glance, and you can see if you're on track. when the conversation turns to knowing where you stand, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. >>> welcome back. this very public negotiation on the fiscal cliff still does not seem to be closing in on a deal. the white house out in campaign style events regularly, mak
for the fiscal cliff deal that include as tax increase for the rich. he met with business leaders in washington d.c. and he is aware that some republicans may be willing to raise tax revenues. but he warped the gop not to pick another fight on the debt sealing. he was can dade -- death ceiling and he was can -- he was candid. >> this is the top 2%. includes all of you, yes. >> i believe there is a purpose to put revenues on the table. >> house speaker boehner countered the president's proposal without raising individual tax rates. the republican plan also includes 600 billion in spending cuts to federal healthcare programs and increase in the eligibility age for medicare. >>> a san francisco blogger and activist is in hot water of a photograph after political opponent. michael petrellis took this of scott weaner last year in a pact room. >> he tried to take a picture of him at an urinal. and today, he pleaded not guilty to misconduct. he wants it to be made as part of the from. >> we will be fighting the case and despite the fact that the photograph was taken, we are talking fundamentally of a ge
said positive remarks about a fiscal cliff deal by president obama are aiding share prices. i guess port-related issues are leading the gains as the weakening trend of the yen is continuing. so let's take a look at the currency markets. the dollar is higher against the yen. that's on better than expected nonmanufacturing data out of the u.s. 82.40-43. euro/yen, that's in the mid 107 yen levels this thursday morning. taking a look at other markets in the asia-pacific, south korea's companiespy is 1949. let's take a look at australia. the benchmark index is lower by about.25%, 4508. let's see where china takes us when they open the next hour. >>> european commission regulators have imposed a fine worth almost $2 billion for running two price-fixing cars sells. they say it's the highest-ever anti-trust penalty in their history. the commission leaders said they fined six companies a total of $1.47 billion euros for anti-competitive behavior. the firms are panasonic and toshiba, samsung sdi and lg electronics, phillips and technicolor. they say the officials of those companies met a numb
a lot today about the need to strike a fiscal cliff deal and what they were doing is tacking with each other, with no new talks scheduled between the major players in the debate and the speaker of the house finds himself defending his own plans for members of his own party. in northwest d.c., president obama is on the hard sell trying to convince a group of business executives to support raising taxes on the wealthy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up the top 2%, and that includes all of you, yes? >> reporter: saying a fiscal cliff deal must include new revenues. the president pushed his plan to raise taxes on household earning over $250,000 a year. >> and i am here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: john boehner has a hard sell of his own with conservatives upset over his offer of $800 billion in new taxes. >> the plans the white house has talked about us this far, they could not pass either house. >> reporter: a "washington post" poll finds 53% would blame republicans if the country went over the fiscal cliff while only 27% would blame the pre
report" he is optimistic about getting a fiscal cliff deal by the end of they year. maryland congressman chris van hollen talked with our darren gersh, and began with an update on the status of the talks. >> well, the good news is that the president and the speaker of the house are now in face-to-face discussions. it's always better to be talking than not. the other development is that increasingly congressional republicans recognize that the position that they had staked out is unsustainable. >> one of the arguments we hear from some democrats is that the fiscal cliff isn't really a cliff, it's more like a slope and you could gradually go down it and the withholding from tax wouldn't kick in for a while and the spending cuts wouldn't hurt the economy for a while. do you think it is good idea to go over the deliver and it is more of a slope. >> no, i think would be a mistake to go over the fiscal cliff because it could set in motion lots of things that could be a drag on the economy. that being said, i think if it's clear that the parties were working toward a negotiation, that you could
if we don't deal with the deficit right away. the fiscal cliff is a very different story. that's about reducing the deficit too fast. >> ifill: you call it an austerity bomb. describe what you mean by that. >> what's happening is that we are scheduled, unless something is done basically to do to ourselves gratuitously what has been happening to some of the european economies. we're going to have substantial spending cuts, substantial tax increases at a time when the dme is still very weak. of course that's a recipe for sliding back into recession. we set ourselves up with the land mine and the road in front of our economy which is not based on anything real, it's just based on our politicalness. >> ifill: speaking of political mess, both sides have what they say are opening gambits on the table. president obama at least his last week which calls for $1.6 trillion in revenues. the republicans came back with their own yesterday. as you looked at each approach, what do you see in that? >> well, i think it's important. i think the reporting has been a little weak on the republican plan. it
on msnbc. >>> all right, less than three weeks to go until that so-called fiscal cliff, and still no deal. but this morning, there are signs of some movement in negotiations. president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone last night. that conversation came after the president offered to reduce his initial request for $1.6 trillion in new revenue to $1.4 trillion but is reportedly not backing down on raising taxes for the top 2%. boehner's spokesman said republicans are still seeking further concessions on spending cuts. >>> well, there are some new details this morning on that london nurse who took her own life after passing through a prank call at the hospital that was treating kate middleton for extreme morning sickness. jacintha saldanha's family reveals that she left a suicide note, though they haven't released details of what that note said. earlier this week, the two deejays who made the call said the tragedy has left them shattered, gutted and heartbroken. >>> now, here's your first look at this morning's "dish of scrambled politics." mitt romney wasn't the only
. that is it for us. have a great weekend, everyone. >> john: another weekend no, deal on the fiscal cliff. how close one is depends on whom you believe. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> john: good evening. i'm john roberts in for bret baier this evening. deadlock, gridlock, stalemate, whatever you call it. most people in washington seem to think we are there. we have just four more weekends to go before america goes over the most talked about piece ovate i of real estn the world, the fiscal cliff. ed henry tells us not everyone is pessimistic. >> reporter: literally snapping his fingers, vice president joe biden today suggested it will be easy to finish a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> greg: speaker bane -- >> reporter: speaker john boehner not so optimistic. >> this is not a progress report, th
in a dangerous game, trying to negotiate a deal to avert the fiscal cliff and using public pressure to try and sway the outcome. exhibit a, the president rallied the crowd on monday in michigan to make the point he's looking to drive home. taxes have to go up on the rich. >> so when you put it all together what you need is a packet that keeps taxes where they are for middle class families. we make some tough spending cuts on things that we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a slightly higher tax rate. >> but here's exhibit b. republicans still have the majority in the house. and many conservatives say they have their own mandate in their districts to cut spending and stop the president from raising taxes. and that brings us to exhibit c republicans are determined to play the long game to win. >> the game you're playing is small ball. you're talking about raising rates on the top 2% that have run the government for 11 days. you just got re-elected. how about doing something big that's not liberal, how about doing something big that really is about partisan. every bi
a fiscal cliff deal. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've gotten out after ka bookie theater and gone to dancing the tango with those two guys. any time you start to tango, you have a chance. >> chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> part of that tango is republicans cracking on tax rates. that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that president spent as much time as he has on the road trying to drum up support for this deal. we just had an election all about this. why does not white house figure that these kinds of appearances are helpful when both sides positions are pretty well locked in already? >> because this president and this white house have concluded that public pressure is what will make republicans bargain with him and deal on his t
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administration may be ready to include these in a fiscal cliff deal with republicans. whatever negotiations are taking place between the president and speaker john boehner, whatever each side is prepared to give up a a level of security. it's totally possible the white house actually has no intent on messing with medicare or social security benefits. but for the left the chatter is ominous. it's coming from well sourced reporters and we've been down this road before. the pursuit with john boehner in 2011, obama was willing. there's reason to suspect there's something to all this chatter. and the question then becomes why? why would obama who simply by doing nothing these next few weeks could get the tax hike on the wealthy he's been demanding without touching medicare and social security? why would he entertain such drastic changes to the safety net? most likely culprit is the dreaded debt ceiling. here's why. republicans came to these talks with no leverage. the consequences of doing nothing before the december 31st meeting were worse for them than democrats. they looked into 2013 and mayb
and decided to roll a debt ceiling extension in to the fiscal cliff deal whatever they end up striking here and seems to me acknowledging republicans have leverage with cpi and talking about raising the medicare age. my question to you as a progressive is, republicans want something big. is there any big concessions you can see acceptable? >> new york city i really can't. and the kind of things we are talking about, even if they're not -- may not be acceptable to me ever but talking about a version of the changed cpi, the president already said social security is off the table because it is not driving the deficit. that's kind of weird. changes to medicare eligibility again or changes to medicare payments or whatever, it's really complicated to negotiate but i have to say i agree with you, steve. i'm -- i wish that the president hadn't taken the 14th amendment off the table because we're all saying, well, nothing should be off the table. why is that off the table and even if it's tough thing to pull off in the long run? i think that this mania for a fiscal cliff deal is disturbing but i thi
in a fiscal cliff deal. we talk with delaware governor jack markell. >> susie: i'm susie gharib. a coalition of the nation's top c.e.o.s is feeling pessimistic about getting a fiscal cliff deal.
the lines of communication are open. getting a deal to avert the fiscal cliff, president made it very clear he is holding the line on hiking taxes on the top 2% of earners. customizing a little bit with republicans. joining us, peter barnes. what exactly is he willing to compromise on? >> on the big item, the big kahuna. increasing taxes on families earning more than $250,000 per year history leaving the door open to a compromise on higher tax rates, higher rates. when anas repea asked repeatedls demanding the top rates return to the clinton administration in and the top rate was 39.6, he does not say yes, have to have that to get a deal. but he is not backing off his demands rates go up by some amount of wealthier families so the buzz is he might settle or compromise for something in between like 37%. there is speculation the president might compromise on the cut off my degree and a higher threshold by 500,000 per year before higher rates would kick in. in a speech in detroit the president extended a little olive branch republicans. >> i have said i would work with republicans on a plan fo
the fiscal cliff negotiations. what you see is what house speaker john boehner said he is hopeful a deal will be reached, but also added the g.o.p. wants the white house to provide details on spending cuts. but in the white house wants the same thing from the g.o.p. but either way that is good enough for the market. we took off and we stayed to the upside. so far neither side has been specific on spending cuts so coming up in just one hour o ony 4:00 p.m. eastern, former treasury secretary paul o'neill says he has easiest way to cut spending. fox business exclusive and in this our whole host of leaders in business talking about what specific they want to see. in terms of individual standouts. apple right now about 2% to the upside. some excitement over the iphone 5. how is this for a order in china. brenda marshall says china unicom has more than 300,000 people on the waiting list. nicole petallides with talk about this earlier, but that is enough to boost the stock. sales in china friday, can you imagine the lines? sec don't airlines is soaring. up nearly 6%. delta says they will buy 49
.s. falls off the fiscal cliff, speaker john bain ser slamming the brakes on any hopes a deal is coming soon, making it clear both sides have differences. second in command, eric cantor warning members not to make any plan for holidays, and kevin brady of texas, vice chairman of joint economic committee, thank you, are we still that far apart? >> you know we are. i started optimistic to get this done before the holidays, but, i don't feel that way, it seems to me the decision has been made, perhaps by white house to take us off this fiscal cliff. i think this is irresponsible to do it we're ready to work out a reasonable sound solution but i do not see that coming from the other side right now. tracy: is it because there is so much going on behind scenes. they think there is a lot of secret wheeling and dealing with john boehner and the president do you agree? >> i do not, i think he -- they have been sporadic talks, i know speaker boehner has been frustrated with how slow the responses have been. again, you know, not just tax rates it is authentic spending cuts, if we don't find a way to fa
proposed in a fiscal cliff deal which the white house quickly rejected because it does not raise taxes on the wealthy but aims to get the money through cuts in deductions. senator jim demint denounced boehner's plan as a tax hike that will, quote, destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also distanced himself from the boehner plan declining to endorse it yesterday. >> we've wasted enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public, and it strikes me it's a good time to get serious about the proposals. so i have no other particular observation than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> but why is the the gop still hot on its desire to raise money through cuts and deductions rather than an actual increase in the top end tax rate? well, i think it's likely because the most ductions in states happen to be the higher blue states. in other words, the gop wants the states that largely reelecte
the house budget committee where elements of a fiscal cliff deal are to be considered. meanwhile president obama held his ground insigs on higher tax rates for the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. >>> the political wrangling but a damper on wall street as stocks finished slightly lower in a light strad trading day. the dow jones industrial lost 13, the nasdaq shed 5. shares in oakland-based pandora are plum etting after hours. the internet radio company posted better-than-expected quarterly results but lowered its outlook for the rest of the fiscal year. the company is facing stiffer competition from the likes of apple and microsoft. both companies are launching their own music service. pandora shares dropped 17% after the closing bell. >>> now, numbers and new numbers show home sales in california remain steady, a sign of the recovering housing market, but as john reports, in one bay area community, the supply of homes on the market is as tight as can be. >> tuesday's in walnut creek are normally reserved for real estate brokers to tour each other's available homes, but today the inven
the hang seng gained 2%. wall street investors are waiting for a fiscal cliff deal. stocks were unchanged. the dow lost 13 points while the nasdaq was down five points. bank profits are getting bigger. the financial industry earned $37.6 billion in the third quarter. that's an increase of more than 6% and it could lead to more lending. there's good news on the housing front. a survey shows housing prices were up more than 6% in october. that's the best gain in six years. starting in 2016 the disney characters are coming to netflix. they landed exclusive rights to stream disney movies before they air on cable networks. netflix will get some of disney's classic movies. no financial terms of the deal were released. and just in time for the holidays, starbucks is introducing a $454 gift card. the card is made of etched steel. comes with $400 on it. the reason why it's $450? it costs $50 just to make the card. there will be only 5,000 available and they will only be sold on the website gilt.com. the card comes with a gold level starbucks membership for $400 you can buy 57 cups of starbucks new
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on a fiscal cliff deal. meanwhile, the president said he's confident republicans will cave on the tax increases. we'll discuss the fiscal cliff with our "morning joe" panel. >>> and now, mercifully, i need your help. are you with me on this one? the phrase fiscal cliff, i'm over it, time's up, date reached on the expiration, nails on the chalkboard annoying. can't we be a little more creative? this is where you come in. e-mail your alternative to the phrase "fiscal cliff," and i'll use the best one tomorrow on our show. we won't use fiscal cliff, i promise. so far, my best, budgetary bluff? yeah, the bar's been set very low. >>> up next, we'll huddle around the water cooler, where jon stewart stepped out of his comfort zone with an eminem-inspired rap for the michigan protesters. >>> well, enough with the real news. let's gather around the water cooler. and first, a little moment of silence. louis louis, who wouldn't miss a second of on-camera opportunity has been talking to the porcelain god all night. not sure why. we wish you the best, louis. see you tomorrow morning. >>> well, a d
this as part of the fiscal cliff deal, we are pushing for it. charles: at some point they do need to address this. this hurts every single american in the wrong way. thanks so much. you know about a bad business? you might think twice about giving it a bad review. next, a woman's review on yelp strikes online criticism. charles: let me be brief, she posted on yelp. now, she need legal help her in being sued for $750,000 for posting this, do not put yourself through this nightmare of the contractor. the customer listed her complaints and said the jewelry was missing from her house. does this warrant a lawsuit? tamra holder says yes. rebekah arose what lynn says the contractor doesn't have a case. >> you know what, there is no lawsuit for defamation. he is suing her and the responses -- it is true. it's not defamation when it's true. charles: that sounds pretty cut and dry. >> if you ask about her answer, i respectfully disagree. she has accused him of committing a crime. stealing jewelry from her home. where does the investigation? where are the criminal charges? charles: she said the jewelry
laws so this is the room w where any deal on the fiscal cliff would be born or die. we have we have new information on those negotiations in just a moment.. >> that's right, it's incredible it's incre to be here in this room. we're going to talk more about mor this a little later in the show. >> surrounded by all the photographs of all the powerful house & ways means chairmen.and >>> we want to get to some of first. the news first.g with violent ski on the other side ofn the the country, thousands of of the holiday shoppers had to ask thor yesterday as a man wearing camouflage opened fire at a mall hundreds o just outside portland oregon. police say he killed two people and wounded another, then shot another, himself to death. john blackstone is at clackamass town center. john good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie and good morning to our viewers in the west. the christmas spirit quickly left this mall yesterday. one eyewitness said the gunman was wearing a hockey mask and bulletproof mask and calmly fire on announced he was the shooter before he
on the fiscal cliff. this morning a leading republican said any deal should include the major drivers of our debt. >> the long-term indebtedness of this country is baby boomers retiring putting pressure on medicaid, medicare and social security. i hope my party will look out for the country and not just the party itself and pure this president to do something he has never done before, lead in a bipartisan way. >> reporter: a little swipe there at the end but republicans have been consistent that it is important to address entitlement reform, something they very much want on the table if we're going to have a big deal in this fiscal cliff matter. jon? jon: on the democratic side it seems like they are holding firm on being sure that there is additional tax revenue in any fiscal cliff deal, right? >> jon, no question about that. they have been consistent from the very beginning. the president ran on the upper income americans paying more taxes as part of this deal. we heard more from chuck schumer on "fox news sunday". >> we democrats realize that there have to be two sides to this bargain but
on the on the missile that perhaps we are nearing a fiscal cliff deal. coming up we'll, find out from key lawmakers in the fiscal cliff negotiations how we can actually get a deal done before the deadline. representative chris van hollen, lynn jenkins and javier becerra as well as sore orrin hatch with us. we'll hear from former treasury secretary altman and jeff greenfield. bill? >> stocks are trading off the highs of the day with less than an hour to go. final hour, really from the get-go. optimism about the cliff talks and senator harry reid made some comments this afternoon that put a damper on that real. we've lost about 30 points. in that time. up 74 on the dow at 13,244. the nasdaq is doing well today, up 32 points. more than a 1% gain, although it is off its highs of the day at 3019, and the s&p 500 index is 8 plus points at 1426. the word on the street is because of the fiscal cliff, some investors are actually selling the winners, the winning stocks, and they are holding on to the poor performers, the opposite what have they have been doing the last few years. maria? >> makes a lot of sen
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whatever deal they reach they have to get the votes for, and that's just the beginning. this fiscal cliff deal if they reach one it's just the beginning of deal making because it's not going to solve the problem. there is going to be more talks going into 2013 on tax reform and dealing with the deficit further. >> reporter: bob cusack thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. jon: let's talk a little bit more about the pickle that house speaker john boehner is in. he's struggling to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he's facing growing criticism from members of his own party, the speaker removing four conservative congressman from key committees, the move seen by some as a way to close ranks over a potential fiscal cliff deal with the white house. outside conservative groups are voicing their displeasure saying speaker john boehner could even lose his speakership. carl cameron joins us live in washington. so he has a lot of problems with conservatives right now, car. >> reporter: sure it's not just off the hill. some of the members on the hill. fiscal conservative
of a good thing. stocks soared in early trading on hopes of a deal on the fiscal cliff. but a parade of speeches by congressional leaders this afternoon dump ad whole lot of water on the rally. stocks pared back from session highs. dow closed down 78 points. even dollar stores are having trouble making money today. dollar general shares got hammered. they warned of sluggish growth ahead and margins that would likely remain flat. >>> urban outfitters is mailing holiday catalogs filled with f-bombs. did you get one of these. retailer is seeing quote, high single-digit expansion in same-store sales this quarter. shares rose more than 4% on the news. it is our top story tonight. un-busters cracking the bedrock of labor unions in michigan even though fiery protests rocked the state capitol all day today they were out there. its house of representatives has passed two right to work bills making it possible for workers to volunteer to belong to a union and pay dues. michigan governor rick snyder could sign bills into law any minute now. so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the t
't rule out an agreement to raise taxes as part of a fiscal cliff deal. but he also said there's no progress. this is what winning looks like. joining me now, e.j. dionne and thank you both for your time. senator solis, the jobless rate is at a four-year low. that's quite an achievement. >> yes, reverend re. but we still need to do more. in sectors like retail and health care and tourism and hospitality. we need to do more because people are still suffering. we've got to put jobs back in infrastructure and construction and put our teachers. that's why the president is working so hard so we don't go off the fiscal cliff so we keep the most vulnerable people out of harm's way. to pay $2,200. we've got to talk about fairness here and i'm very excited that the public is listening to the message that the president has made very, very clear. >> 146,000 new private sector jobs last month but one of the things that you talk about is the public sector. the president has proposed about $50 billion in infrastructure jobs which would be the public sector which is where a lot of the most hi
spark when it came to negotiating a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, which is the christmas present the country needs. today we heard president obama's response to the proposal that house speaker john boehner put on the table yesterday. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> of out of balance. kind of similar to what republicans said last week when the president sent over his terms. so now what? will they sit down and talk it through? well, not according to at least one senior republican aide who told cnn today, no conversations today, no e-mails, tweets, carrier pigeons. as for boehner and obama, they actually did see each other in person at the white house holiday party last night in black tie. while other lawmakers waited in line to get the photo with the president, multiple sources from both sides of the aisle tell cnn that boehner wasn't among them. so much for holiday cheer. we have this picture. we're wait fworg the day there's a fiscal cliff. there wasn't total silence in washington today. senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case,
very much for helping us out. >>> now folks, we switch gears back. we still have no fiscal cliff deal, but there's talk between president obama and tim geithner. congress has adjourned for a long weekend. that's kind of insane. eamon javers joins us. >> reporter: the president began his day this morning before an audience of business leaders and he continued his campaign of persuasion amongst some of the nation's top ceos. >> i am passionately rooting for your success. because if the companies in this room are doing well, then small businesses and medium sized businesses up and down the chain are doing well. if companies in this room are doing well, then folks get jobs, consumers get confidence, and we're going to be able to compete around the world. >> and then larry, later in the afternoon, our steve leishman sat down with treasury secretary tim geithner. geithner in that interview late in the afternoon made it clear that this is brinksmanship of the highest order. >> i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. those making more
frame necessary to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. it's wednesday, december 12th, and this is "now." >>> joining me today, msnbc contributor and political editor and white house correspondent for the "huffington post," sam stein holding it down stag style. jane mayer from "the new yorker" is here. bbc world news america anchor and former traveling press secretary for the obama campaign jen socky. this is the speed of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a deal of its own. yesterday it included precisely the same amount of revenue from the original proposal, $800 bi
if you get a fiscal cliff deal, it will be mildly inflationary. that may actually raise rates, even if the fed keeps buying bonds. we actually need to see rates up in order to get real excited about the banks. >> that's a good point. we continue to watch facebook. flirting with 28. and apple here at $5.40. we'll see how it manages that resistance. bob pisani is on the floor with more. >> still talking about the fiscal cliff and how little reaction we'll get with the markets. up 60 points in the dow right now. there's no particular worry out there. they believe that a deal is going to happen. if you look at the vix, for example, not only are they not moving, they're not moving out of any range, but they're moving in an even tighter spread than they normally do. the relationship between vix and vix futures is squashed down. this is the deal, the republicans will agree to tax increases, and very quickly this week we'll turn to debate on what kind of spending cuts there's going to be, and dealing with entitlements. they believe a deal is coming, we'll see. i espoused this a couple of we
president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign we're close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked cnn senior political analyst david gergen. >> they recognize the deadlines are coming at them fast and this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a breakthrough. they did it in private instead of the political theater we've been seeing is over the last couple weeks. i think that's encouraging. don, we should be patient here. there's even a bigger long-term issue and that is whether the kind of agreement they could reach now will lead to a grand bargain or whether it will lead to a mouse instead of an elephant. we don't know that yet. we'll have to wait and see how what they can craft this week and see indeed if they can get past the fiscal cliff. that's point one. in some ways, don, what's at stake here is whether they can craft a deal that's win/win. that each side can walk away from something in the short term saying we're encouraged, this gives us greater reason to go on and engage in the grand bargain next year. this is a moment, don, when a lot of things are hanging in the balance.
between president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign that we are close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think that's encouraging. there's even a bigger long-term issue, and that is whether the kind of agreement they can reach now will lead to a grand bargain, or whether it's going to amount to a mouse instead of an elephant. we will have to see what they can craft this week and see if they can get passed the fiscal cliff. the bargain is really important, too. in some ways, don, what is at stake is whether they can craft a deal is that win/win. each side can walk away with something in the short term saying this is encouraging. this is a moment, don, when a lot of things are hanging in the balance. having them sit down today is encouraging because it means they don't want to take us all the way to the 11th hour and 59th minute. they want
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